[CP] µ12: Gameplay Discussion

[Nemesis]

It's not so much that Mu's gatling is bad, but you can't cram all that stuff in with barrier guard pushing you away, at which point you have to board the train to gimmick town and start pushing that C... Not to mention, prior to CP, her 6b was so safe that as long as you first condition people to not mash, there was no reason to not push it.

Also, Mu's anti-jump strings tend to be risky in my experience. 6a lacks the range and 2c is slow and doesn't leave many options if blocked.

Though, who really needs anti-jumpout strings when people just run into 5c in all distances =D

A surprising amount of people dont Barrier block very often (at least online...) not to mention the greater drain on barrier blocking in CP (right?)

[Zeromus_X]

lol no

Anyone's 5A/2A > Jin's j.B

j.B stopped being a good jump-in after CT and it stopped being a jump-in at all after CSII. It's an amazing air-to-air though. Jin's jump-in is j.2C, j.B is an air-to-air tool.

I must still have bad memories of Jin Tentacles from CS2 then lol.

[xntrikcat]

I really liked the way Zeromus used j.b that I stole the fuzzy/j.b j.d 2a stuff from the last time we played.

Mu j.b is amazing when used right, but jumping in as Mu, in general, is a risky business. I cannot ever land a crossup j.b on Nineball's Ragna, for example. He'll call everything out w/ reaction 5a or 6a, crossup or not. It's come to the point where I'll 3c IAD and crossup Tsunugui hoping to score a CH, but it somehow clashes with Ragna's 6a and I eat the CH combo instead T____T

[Tecta1Eastside]

All of mu's jumpins are pretty bad without cover. J2c is ok against 2a but other characters got better jump in moves.

when i play someone on xbl that's good I dont even land 5c ch that often since your supposed take your time and think while you rush in against mu.

even 6b is overrated to me cuz they block it and i have to mix-up my block strings and use stein bits with my pressure to break my opponents defense.

Dont listen to me though, I gotta have the worst rushdown game as a mu-12 player.

im scared to press buttons with a character that has decent buttons at times

Edited December 27, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[bakahyl]

Mu's j.b is pretty good in some occassions (when j.c is too slow) against people who tend to like to use their j.a (some ragna, jin and hazama players that i tend to fight) too much at close range.

[Tecta1Eastside]

Mu's j.b is pretty good in some occassions (when j.c is too slow) against people who tend to like to use their j.a (some ragna, jin and hazama players that i tend to fight) too much at close range.

true

isnt better to fight hazama at close range though?

not sure so that's why i'm asking

I might go ahead and update the video thread now.

http://youtu.be/kbl-112PVCQ?t=1h50m8s

ragna vs u-12 was pretty good.

There's a hype jc combo starter with her CT that does 4.1k.

I'll have to timestamp exactly where the combo happens later on

http://youtu.be/kbl-112PVCQ?t=1h56m35s JC 4.1k combo

Edited December 27, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[Lord Pwnge18]

Mu's j.b is pretty good in some occassions (when j.c is too slow) against people who tend to like to use their j.a (some ragna, jin and hazama players that i tend to fight) too much at close range.

Yo baka, are you on xbl or psn? I don't think I've ever fought you before.

[bakahyl]

Used to be on both, before i got too busy with work and before my gold expired

Unfortunately i only get to play against EU players due to the timezones and i am one of the few Mu users on live or psn who plays during those times.

[Nemesis]

I've been practicing and utilizing your 2a 6a 2b 6a pressure and it's like magic - I am simply loving it. I can't wait to improve on my pressure Enders... Currently using 6b or 6c even ... Fiddling with a lot

[Tecta1Eastside]

Our savior H.H is back

http://www.twitch.tv/adastream/b/351814129

I'll update the video thread tonight.

I'll wait until this stream archive is up on youtube to post vids in the video thread

[pochp]

Interesting how he just places the steins to zone, maybe it's just for the bullet matchup, but I wonder if it's still better than placing them to optimize totsuka... Also pretty glad habaya still seems effective in ground blockstrings.

I'll update the video thread tonight.

I'll wait until this stream archive is up on youtube to post vids in the video thread

Do you think you could use the same format as in the first post of that thread? (not using the character balls) It's really appreciated btw.

[Nemesis]

around 1 hour and 20 min there is a mu vs hakumen fight that Im liking alot -- some interesting stuff there hope you grab that one (cant finish watching it have to go out)

[Tecta1Eastside]

wait so do i post vids like this...

[12/28/2012] Mato vs H.H.

or

[12/28/2012] Mato (AZ) vs H.H (µ)

u want the second choice without the character balls

Edited December 28, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[pochp]

Hm, when I think about it I'm not actually sure, I'm just thinking about a format that would be the easiest to insert in the OP. I think something like this would be the best:

[12/28/2012] H.H. vs Mato Azrael

or

[12/28/2012] H.H. vs Mato

(important thing being the character name outside of the link. correct character sides too if possible, but it's not THAT important)

[Tecta1Eastside]

Hm, when I think about it I'm not actually sure, I'm just thinking about a format that would be the easiest to insert in the OP. I think something like this would be the best:

[12/28/2012] H.H. vs Mato Azrael

or

[12/28/2012] H.H. vs Mato

(important thing being the character name outside of the link. correct character sides too if possible, but it's not THAT important)

I just posted most of the videos from the last few days.

I'll go back and clean up thread in the format you want later tonight.

I just wanted to get the videos in the video thread rather than trying to get them in their later on tonight.

[bakahyl]

I am sad to see that ikutachi has a low p2 of 82. So unless you really need to combo from it (like not using meter at midscreen) it actually hurts the overall damage of Mu's combo's.

edit:

So that's why i find it strange that (forgot if it was Serizawa or H.H.) some actually use it for the corner combo's.

Edited December 28, 2012 by bakahyl

[Tecta1Eastside]

we still can still do loops midscreen but there different

instead of 6a<j2c etc

we do 6a<2c j2c<2b etc

I can post the video where i think either H.H or MGN do 4k off anti air 5c starter

[C0R]

I just posted most of the videos from the last few days.

I'll go back and clean up thread in the format you want later tonight.

I just wanted to get the videos in the video thread rather than trying to get them in their later on tonight.

No more character balls next to video links, I got a slap across the hands for hitting the image limit.

[Tecta1Eastside]

hey we got a new combo video

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19700140

I fixed the video thread too

[Lord Pwnge18]

uwaa, those OD combos made my naughty bits tingle

Edited December 29, 2012 by Lord Pwnge18

[IxisNaugus]

Do we know by chance if Oboron, Reu, Maguro or any of the other top CSE Mu's play CP? Apologies if this has already been answered before in the thread.

[Tecta1Eastside]

Do we know by chance if Oboron, Reu, Maguro or any of the other top CSE Mu's play CP? Apologies if this has already been answered before in the thread.

Not atm I believe. All i've seen is H.H and a few other notable Mu's like Keba and MGN.

Although I saw MGN playing makoto today instead of u-12

This guy is my favorite mu-12 atm but i dont know his name sadly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN2ZWnN4hOo&feature=youtu.be&t=1s

Edited December 29, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[IxisNaugus]

Not atm I believe. All i've seen is H.H and a few other notable Mu's like Keba and MGN.

Although I saw MGN playing makoto today instead of u-12

This guy is my favorite mu-12 atm but i dont know his name sadly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN2ZWnN4hOo&feature=youtu.be&t=1s

Ah ok, A shame we don't know if they still play, hopefully they'll turn up sooner or later.

Thanks for the link also, I've not seen this Mu before. Pity we don't have a name to tie her to.

[Tecta1Eastside]

your welcome

here the youtube version of that niconico video that i posted

Blazblue Chrono Phantasma - Mu-12 Combos

OK I think i finally caught back up. I only hope i dont wake and see a bunch of mu-12 vids again.

Thank you youtube for the like button feature and watch later feature where i can go back and find the mu-12 vids after I find them and add them into the thread easily.

[12/16/2012] Susuki µ vs Nabe Hakumen

Edited December 29, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[susano]

I'm giddy about the swag combos we have in CP. I was very impressed with what I saw from H.H. My gameplay evolved from watching him play.