[CP] µ12: Gameplay Discussion

[pochp]

chart

I lol'd... but what oki setup is giving you such a good snare for mu :O

[C0R]

All of them.

Without versatility, all forms of control are circumvented by adaptation.

[Tecta1Eastside]

http://www.twitch.tv/adastream/b/347922411

There's so really good mu-12 footage in here.

pktsan already has some of the footage on her youtube page.

I dont have the time to post all the matches up atm but go look at the stream

and check out the youtube channel and watch it.

[bakahyl]

http://www.twitch.tv/adastream/b/347922411

There's so really good mu-12 footage in here.

pktsan already has some of the footage on her youtube page.

I dont have the time to post all the matches up atm but go look at the stream

and check out the youtube channel and watch it.

@12:28 of that link

Wow, spiker chaser seems to be atleast a level 2 projectile now seeing that habaya did not stop it. Which will make this match even more annoying than it already was

6b still seems to cancel into 5d on block, not sure if this will make it safer against characters who can stop the new 6b, 6c blockstring like tager who can sledge through it.

@23:30 Ikutachi was used to escape nu's blockstring with spike chaser. Interesting , seeing that habaya no longer stops it.

Edited December 14, 2012 by bakahyl

[Tecta1Eastside]

too much u-12 in one day lol.

imma start adding the youtube matches in the cp video thread

Edit: added matches that are currently up from the stream.

There's some dora bang vs mu-12 that hasnt been uploaded from the stream yet.

PET Azrael vs the mu-12 might be H.H but need confirmation to be sure.

i'll post whatever is missing and actually watch the matches later

Edited December 14, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[bakahyl]

This is pretty interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sqghQGbhLg&t=1m17s

A midscreen Tsurugi CH can be followed up with 6a and leads to a 4,3k damage combo (probably not optimized because that Azreal got hit by a laser from a random stein pretty early in the combo, but it still did pretty decent damage)

edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sqghQGbhLg&t=2m38s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sqghQGbhLg&t=5m28s

very usefull looking corner combos

lol @ the astral combo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sqghQGbhLg&t=9m13s

Edited December 14, 2012 by bakahyl

[Tecta1Eastside]

That's H.H. playing against PET Azrael and Udon hazama.

made corrections in video thread

Now i can chill out and watch matches:)

http://youtu.be/oTI5qxSDXV8?t=33m37s

dora vs h.h hype

Edited December 15, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[Zeromus_X]

Thanks for the links Tectal, HH's Mu is just what I wanted to see. She's still plenty strong, and I'm glad to see her corner game looks even better than before. Love how HH would fill in the gaps in his pressure with laser blockstun and frame trap with charge/non-charge 214D. Also her corner combos this time end with 2 or more steins and the perfect height for j236D oki.

[Tecta1Eastside]

ur welcome.

I added some extra vids that showed up on youtube in the cp vid thread.

i'll watch em when i wake or sometime 2morrow

i forgot this mu-12 mirror

[12/08/2012] FunkyQ vs Toriten donburi

its also in the vid thread now

Edited December 15, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside

[C0R]

Ah! I'd like to call attention specifically to Asou's recently uploaded matches. His nessicaID is actually Hagar-Gold, which some of you might recognize.

Being the current #1 ranked µ on nessica, everyone should be super observant of his movement, as it's easily his strongest point.

[12/14/2012'> [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CKlY9N-zw0]sessha vs asou

[12/14/2012] Ruta vs asou

[12/14/2012] Yukki vs asou

[Tecta1Eastside]

anou movement too good.

i like our new dp ch combo midscreen

I tried watching some of this but i fell asleep in 10 mins. too tired lol

there's more mu footage in various places of the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/team_exe2/b/348125794

[susano]

This is inspiring me to work on my movement now. I notice that I move too stiff with mu and lambda. Nice find C0r. I'll be looking out for this guy more often. I'll also need to focus on her only. I get too caught up trying to learn everyone else and not realizing the only way you get good with character is to stick with them.

Edited December 15, 2012 by susano

[pochp]

I think I had that guy labeled as Azuo in the CSEX videos lol. Never saw him with that as a tag, just went with what I thought the commentators were calling him. Anyways, he was usually the pink Mu in the A-cho and kohatsu footage.

Tachi going through stuff.... I hope this will be good in the rachel matchup, when you react to a summon too slowly with 6c, both projectiles just cancel each other.

[Tecta1Eastside]

there's more mu footage in various places of the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/team_exe2/b/348125794

53:11 vs makoto

59:38 vs bang

2:07:00 vs makoto

2:12:40 vs makoto

2:18:53 vs platinum

2:22:12 vs makoto

2:41:07 vs Bullet

3:20:55 vs Azrael

5:39:35 vs rachel

5:49:42 vs Azrael

6:40:43 vs Jin

6:50:06 vs Bullet

7:02:31 vs Jin

7:12:45 vs Bullet

That's all the matches from the stream. there all really good btw.

charge laser corner oki is still good and they havent got itachi to cross-up in the corner yet though

[Overheat]

I think I had that guy labeled as Azuo in the CSEX videos lol. Never saw him with that as a tag, just went with what I thought the commentators were calling him. Anyways, he was usually the pink Mu in the A-cho and kohatsu footage.

I'm pretty sure it actually is Azuo, but I don't think there's exactly a proper way to romanize names... It's difficult to, as well, when the announcers say the names so quickly.

[Nemesis]

seems like once again our greatest str is dodging ppl lol ... still tho that totsuka blade is wicked fast ... its gone so quickly even with 4 steins on the screen

[bakahyl]

Unless specials with CT properties (like Platinum's Hammer) don't take away much of the barrier gauge , I am now more convinced that a fully charged Furu no Tsurugi does not have Crush Trigger properties seeing that a regular CT seems to take away 33-50% of the barrier gauge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n6m5Kn9RAw&list=UU1cefQMPUW2NSmtYdeYTKY#t=1m17s

note: this video just shows a regular CT from Litchi on a barrier guard

[C0R]

Personally, it would make sense to me if non-ct moves with ct property don't rape barrier gauge, else the ease of access to those tools would make them too powerful.

[bakahyl]

I had to browse through the platinum sub forums to find this and you are probably right about it

Nope, her Hammer Guard Crushes in the final version and that's why we only get 2 item stocks for the Hammer now. However, while it Guard Crushes instantly, it doesn't take away 1/3rd of the opponent's Barrier like CTs do if they choose to Barrier to fend off the Guard Crush.

So a fully charged Furu no Tsurugi might still guard crush if you don't barrier guard it.

[Tecta1Eastside]

Imma be posting all the mu matches from both team exe streams.

its gonna take some time. i'll let you know when its all posted.

[Nemesis]

Personally, it would make sense to me if non-ct moves with ct property don't rape barrier gauge, else the ease of access to those tools would make them too powerful.

max SoD is already too easy to land as it stands

[C0R]

Imma be posting all the mu matches from both team exe streams.

its gonna take some time. i'll let you know when its all posted.

I added the first team exe stream to the video thread, the one with masuo, 55AC and pamuo.

[Tecta1Eastside]

I added the first team exe stream to the video thread, the one with masuo, 55AC and pamuo.

dang.. well if i ended up duplicated some of the vids just delete them

[C0R]

dang.. well if i ended up duplicated some of the vids just delete them

I just added the one that you had already timestamped, if you're building on that there should be no duplicates. I'll check though.

[Tecta1Eastside]

I just added the one that you had already timestamped, if you're building on that there should be no duplicates. I'll check though.

I got it fixed.

I labeled whats from other stream that's not been posted from twitch.

i labeled the youtube matches that's been posted from twitch by you.

should be all set now

Edit: i just learned why they had two streams.

They literally had over 10hrs cp footage together.

I started freaking out when i saw litchi in matches and i didnt see her in the other stream.

team exe and team exe2 had long bb streams and each was different footage.

I thought one was HD and the other was Standard definition or something at 1st and was the same thing lol

Edited December 17, 2012 by Tecta1Eastside