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We're stating matchups that we hate playing now? For me it's definitely Rachel. Wind and lobelias have always screwed with me.

Maybe he should play against me or NeoGio. That should be fun.

Although on some characters, you get the 5B without a rapid. I think against Noel, Litchi, Hazama and a couple others. And 6B -> 5B -> 6A will also always work on fatal counter.

And another interesting thing to note from that clip is that you can standing combo after encore in AB2. I believe the combo was something like j.2B -> 2A -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> AB2 -> 5Bx4 -> 236C~B -> 5C -> 6C -> SJC -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D

So you have to basically be right next to them. So technically it should work on setups where you can dash? Like air-to-ground j.C -> 66 -> 5B -> 3C? We'll have to test this when the game comes out.

He's got the right idea. We should all play valk/tao and fly around the screen.

ggs, Valk is scary.

The real netplay Ragna starts here. And goddamn, I don't know how to deal with the Tao mirror anymore, I don't play it often enough Redblack. That was pretty neat. I think I'll get the hang of it again if we play some more.

Starting to put down combos from the "Basic" combo video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=19s 2A -> 5B -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 236A~B [1321 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=22s 2A -> 5B -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C [1211] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=26s 2A -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [2062 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=33s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 236A~B -> RC -> 2[C] -> 236[C]C -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [3815] www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=42s 2A -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [2281 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=49s 2A -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 236C -> 2D~6-> j.236Bx5 [2973] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=56s 2A -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> OD -> 6Cx2 -> SJC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [4607 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=1m14s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3345 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=1m23s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~6 -> j.236Bx5 [3940] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=1m31s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.D~C -> j.D~C -> j.236236D [4566 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=1m45s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> OD -> 6Cx2 -> SJC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [5836 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m3s Air-to-Ground j.B/j.C -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 2C -> 5C -> JC -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3246 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m14s 5B+C -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.D~B -> 5C -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3211 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m23s 5B+C -> j.2D~B -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6CF -> 236C~B [3636 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m32s 5B+C -> j.236Bx2 -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.D~B -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236C~B [3213 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m39s 5B+C -> j.6D~6 -> j.4D~B -> 5C -> JC -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [2822 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m47s 4B+C -> 2C -> 5D~B -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236C~B [3103 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=2m55s 4B+C -> 2C -> 5[C] -> JC -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3012 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=3m2s (Back to wall) j.B+C -> 66 -> 5C -> 5D~B -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236C~B [3090 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=3m9s (Back to wall) j.B(2) -> 2B -> 2C -> [2]7D~B -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [2501 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=3m20s (Ground to air) 6A(2) -> JC -> j.B(2) -> j.2D~B -> (5C -> j.D~B)x2 -> 5C -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [2421 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=3m29s CH j.D~B -> j.B(2) -> j.6D~6 -> j.4D~B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.D~C -> j.236236D [3935 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=3m49s CH 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 5[C] -> (j.D~B -> 5C)x2 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [4525 (KD)] (Swap with j.236236D ender for 5200) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=4m 5[C] -> 6C -> CT -> 6C -> 214D -> j.D~B -> 5C -> j.2D~C -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [5568 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=4m12s 6C -> CT -> 6C -> 236CC -> JC -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> OD -> 6Cx2 -> SJC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [8126 (KD)] (Go with the j.2D~C -> j.D~A route for 8200) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=4m33s (Full OD time) 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> OD -> 5B -> 5[C] -> 2[C] -> 6[C] -> 6[C] -> SJC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [5163 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=4m53s (Full OD time) OD -> 5B -> 5[C] -> JC -> j.4D~B -> 5C -> 6Cx2 -> 236C -> 6Cx2 -> SJC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 -> JC -> j.236Bx5 [5814 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sn_UoB4zac&t=5m12s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> OD -> 5B -> 5[C] -> 2[C] -> 6[C] -> Astral [2887 + Win]

Normals

Every time I try playing this I'm reminded that I'm horrible at the game, and Naoto lacks a lot of tools.

Nice, you guys got a backup stream for it. I was stuck at work and only got home now. Damn it's cold out. Most nights I am on at around 7, so it shouldn't be much of a recurring issue. It's good to know we have plenty of backup.

I'm making this since the game has been out for a while, and we can compile a more full changelist. - New Distortion Drive: Unison Nyaibu!! j.236236D. Good damage, knocks down. - Almost Becoming Two changed to Overdrive. Can gain meter during it. - Cat Spirit One and Cat Spirit Three have a new followup: Cat Spirit Encore (Ex: 236C~B) - Cat Spirit Encore can finish combos and leave them in good place for resets. Forces crouch. Pulls opponents towards you. - 6A no longer floats regardless. Pretty much just for anti-airing now. - 236C changed to mid, 21 frames. New crouch/CH confirm. So in places you used to use 6A, use 6A -> 236CC. Charging 236C max, or using 236CC,236C is still an overhead. - Cat Spirit Encore -> RC -> 236CC works. Encore -> RC -> 2[C] -> 6[C] also works. - 236CC now jump cancelable (on hit only). - 5D on hit has a "blowback" animation. 5D~A has good oki potential in the corner and near corner combos. - j.4D now has two possible hits, making certain combos possible. - j.D no longer has SMP. (5C -> JC -> j.D~B)xN loop now possible. - j.B on hit properties buffed. Acts slightly more like CT j.236BB. (j.B(2) -> j.2B -> JC)xN and (j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5C -> JC7)xN loop now possible. - C charging time is much shorter now. Charging fully during combos is a lot more possible. 5[C] -> 6C on regular hit confirms works. - Fully charged C's are possible from gatlings in OD. - 2C -> 5C gatling now possible. - Bowling ball now two hits - Counter assault buffed to 2C animation, no longer randomly whiffs on opponents right next to you - 5C jump cancel not possible on block - 3D~3 -> j.236Bx5 no longer possible for some reason up drive and forward drive into is still fine. - 6C now has a wallstick instead of a wallbounce. 6C -> 4D~B now works on more characters. - j.B has a better hitbox in general - If you use up all your jumps/dashes, then you can no longer use the D button. - Items input changed to half circle back A/B/C - 63214C charged fully causes a third potential bowling ball hit

I agree. This type of elitism should seriously go away already. If there are people willing to learn and compete, let them try. We shouldn't be pushing new players away. Staying completely on-topic, you know what would be nice? Some more organized ft5/ft10 streams between good players. Especially if it's a set between two really solid players. It looks like Haven already beat me to it here, and it's a really awesome idea if the word gets out.

It definitely would if the one streaming was actually playing. The rooms I've spectated in and streamed didn't seem to be a problem.

If you need an additional streamer, I would be glad to lend a hand.

Starting to put down the combos from Kazu's video. Will put in the first post when I'm done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=0s 2AA -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [1938/13HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=8s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3345/24HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=16s 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 7 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [4174/38HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=25s CH 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.C -> j.2D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [4251/32HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=35s CH 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> CT -> 6C -> 214D -> j.C -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [5237/7HG? (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=48s Air-To-Ground j.C -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> j.C -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3232/23HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m Air-To-Air j.C -> j.B(2) -> j.2D~B -> 7 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [2871/21HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m8s 236CC -> JC7 -> jD~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3372/24HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m17s CH/Charge 6C -> 214D -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3580/16HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m25s 5B+C -> j.6D~6 -> j.4D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3114/12HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m35s 5B+C -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3241/23HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m44s 5B+C -> j.236B -> j.2D~B -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.4D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3356/13HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=1m53s 5B+C -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3418/25HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=2m1s 5B+C -> 2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3471/16HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=2m9s 2A -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> OD -> 5Bx4 -> 236C~B -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [~4500? (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=2m27s 2AA -> 5B -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> OD -> 5Bx4 -> 236C~B -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [~4400? (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=2m49s 5B+C -> OD -> 6C -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [4101 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=3m4s 5B+C -> OD -> 6C -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC8 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC8 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [4901? (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=3m22s 5B+C -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> OD -> 5Bx4 -> j.236C~B -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [5515? (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=3m41s 2AA -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~6 -> j.236Bx5 [2609/18HG] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=3m49s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [4103/29HG] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=3m58s CH 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> JC7 -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 2C -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [5388/38HG] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=4m10s Air-To-Ground j.C -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> JC7 -> j.D~A -> 2C -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [3941/28HG] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=4m22s Air-To-Air j.C -> j.B(2) -> j.2D~B -> 7 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [3730/27HG] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=4m32s CT -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236CC -> JC7 -> jD~A -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 2C -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [5235] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=4m44s 2AA -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [1782/13HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=4m51s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3036/22HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m1s 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.C -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 2C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [4171/29HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m11s Air-To-Ground j.C -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 5D~A -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236C~B [2928/21HG (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m19s Air-To-Ground j.C -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.C -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236C~B [3232 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m30s CT -> 236CC -> JC7 -> j.D~B -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 236C~B [3396 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m38s 4B+C -> 5C -> JC7 -> j.D~B -> 5C -> j.B(2) -> j.D~A -> 5D~A -> 6C -> 236A -> 5D~A [2960 (KD)] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m46s 2AA -> 2B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.2D~B -> 5C -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [2437] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=5m54s 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 2C -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [3717] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=6m2s Air-To-Ground j.C -> 5B -> 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 214D -> j.C -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> 236CC -> 2D~C -> j.9D~9 -> j.236Bx5 [3903] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=6m13s 2C -> 5[C] -> 6C -> CT -> 6C -> 214D -> j.C -> j.D~C -> j.2D~A -> 6C -> 4D~B -> OD -> 5Bx4 -> 5C -> 236C~B -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [7368] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsJ33p1EmlA#t=6m36s 5B+C -> j.2D~B -> 5[C] -> 6C -> 4D~B -> OD -> 5Bx4 -> 5C -> 236C~B -> SJC7 -> j.236Bx5 -> JC9 -> j.236Bx5 -> j.236236D [5790]

Gamercard > join session in progress doesn't look for connection restrictions.

That man seems really legit to me, but I need to fight him under a better connection. Oh well, Tao mirrors are always insane, and I have so much fun playing them. I want to play this guy more.

Well, it has already happened to me twice. Guess you're not alone there.

Delicious S3&K. It's what happens when you release a goddamn beta build. They were no where close to finished, and they knew it. But Sega wanted to reach a holiday release for the 15th anniversary. That's about it.

You have to be skillful to have Sonic 06 not kill you because of physics/other glitches. You also have to have the patience to wait through 300+ 1-3 minute loading screens. You have to have the patience to run through a mostly empty overworld that serves no real purpose other than to make the game more than an hour long. I have done all of these things, and S-ranked every Sonic stage in that game. And the Unleashed Sonic stages were pretty awesome, too bad you had to go through 10-20 minute werewolf sections to get to them. They were even more GOTTA GO FAST than the Generations modern or Colors stages. Colors was good too.

Dark Souls eh? I see a man of good taste. Where do you play it, PS3, Xbox or PC?

I wanted to come, but there isn't a second car that's going, and I don't drive. Oh well. See you guys at UMAD then.

Yeah, I just started playing again like a week or two ago. I'm actually seeing a lot of familiar faces and some really good new ones. It's pretty awesome. Now if only my local scene will start playing BB again...