C0R Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 All the character specific changes from CS1 to CS2 will probably be notated in their respective subforums, that's a lot of info for one clump.
Henaki Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Hmmmmm, I still don't understand the changes, even reading the past Loketest changes. I wonder if someone will post an "overall change" when compared to CS1. http://generalnantoka.blog35.fc2.com/blog-entry-405.html
KM Riku Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 tao might be able to drive cancel and 5b after 6c if the slide is long enough From the previous loketest, they said you could only combo after 6C in coner...so unless they changed that, this buff seems pretty useless and situational for me.
PozerWolf Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 http://generalnantoka.blog35.fc2.com/blog-entry-405.html Ah, neat. Thanks for the link.
Beautiful Death Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Okay, okay, okay. I'll try not to flip out at shadows in the future. Cause that is SO not cool. Anyway. Dudena the Dudedge. 22C isn't worth it? What? Did 22C recieve some kind of nerf that I didn't catch? Like, less hitstun or something? Because otherwise, 22C going to 600 only makes it better. I don't see how it's not worth it, unless of course there is less untechable or somethin other.
KayEff Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Maybe the hitstun on 22C leaves Ragna at a frame disadvantage. Maybe it's not true proration anymore. There are several things that ArcSys could have done to nerf 22C to this point. As far as what actually happened to it, we really don't know; ushidon didn't really specify.
FlyingVe Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 My guess is it's just that 22C isn't worth it anymore. 3C combos into 22C, but 3C is techable (IRC) so you cant do 3C>2B or 3C>5D.
ZONG_one Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 It's probably just so you can't get those bullshit 1F links anymore. 22C is a weird move anyway, we won't know much until they play around and find out it's uses.
Beautiful Death Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Huh. Alrighty. Gotta assume something hit it, because if the move was untouched from CS, it's fine. Even better, with the +200 HP doncha know. They're probably just crazy. No wait. I think I got it. Okayzers. Makes sense. If the hitstun was reduced by like a frame or two, that must mean you can't do any 22C dash 5B garbage anymore, and since 3C is techable, you won't be getting any 3C 2B/5C pickups, so if you want to use 22C, it'll be off a 3C. And that is where it will end. Just 3C>22C, that's it. If the hitstun was reduced, I mean. Okey dokey. Gotcha. I could just be outta my mind, of course. WEeelllllll, that is SO uncool, but I guess Dudena's got to take one for the team. Of course, here's to hoping that those Japanlandians are just crazy. I certainly wouldn't mind 22C being identical plus 200 more big ones. That would be neat-o.
felipebwk Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 "Meter increase penalty time increased, in other words, you get back meter much slower after you cause meter actions" can i read Rapid cancel in this?
Zeromus_X Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Even if we can't do a huge combo with 22C anymore, it might still be good since a free mixup opportunity will be more valuable with Ragna's new gatlings and harder to jump out of pressure. /theoryfightan And well...it doesn't look like we can do anything off 3C or 2D anyway
RadRed Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 I wonder why it's so hard to come by Noel information during these location tests. Does no one who comes to these things have any extensive knowledge on her?
KayEff Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 They're probably trying to get information not from Noel's drive since it sucks so much ass. Thing is Mori wants more drive stuff. [/sPECULATION]
HexaNoid Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 I think it's either got to do with the fact that there's no new changes to Noel or that not enough people at these loketests care about her. Something is telling me it's the latter though..
pulsr Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Time to drop dat Mu and get my magical girl air dash on.
Vulcan422 Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 I wonder why it's so hard to come by Noel information during these location tests. Does no one who comes to these things have any extensive knowledge on her? Nobody in Japan plays Noel you silly-billy.
farranpoison Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Noel players are like a dying species. Time to get breeding.
Sahgren Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Must... Resist... Urge... to make bad joke...
HiagoX Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Noel players are like a dying species. Time to get breeding. It's not like there's many Makoto players either, oh well.
HexaNoid Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 It's not like there's many Makoto players either, oh well. But Makoto hasn't been playable since CT. Even the drive spammers seemed to have dropped her.
farranpoison Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 But Makoto hasn't been playable since CT. Even the drive spammers seemed to have dropped her. Beat me to it. Everyone who used to play Noel just dropped off the face of the earth. It's like CS Jin but not as bad.
Sahgren Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 And everyone left to play her is now considered a drive spammer *sigh* Can i haz gud normals plz?
HiagoX Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 My point is that neither of them have many players around, at any rate. And I can already see everyone dropping her in CS2 if it keeps going this way, too.
RadRed Posted November 15, 2010 Posted November 15, 2010 Nobody in Japan plays Noel you silly-billy. Noel players are like a dying species. True, true. I'm still committed to her tho'. Have been since Calamity Trigger. I can't help who I find to be the most fun in the game! I just wish we could get at least something from these location tests regarding her.
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