TheGreatReptar Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Being a side tournament also puts Blazble in the same league as Guilty Gear, 3rd Strike, and CvS2. Being a side tournament doesn't mean it's a bad game. It's a disappointment, but I could have told you back in August BB wasn't going to get another spot. There were a total of 16 pools for BB last year, meaning that at the very most, there were 256 entrants. MK had at least 500 entrants. Mr. Wizard even made a post in the Evo suggestions thread on SRK about there being something wrong with your community if you can just barely pull 200 players for you game, which I agree with. The community at large just doesn't go to things. Georgia is especially guilty of that. We haven't had a bracket for a BB tournament in Atlanta in a year. The turnout for Evo was just bad, which matters more than how good top 8 was. It's something Mr. Wizard is very transparent about too. The games they choose are the games they think will bring the biggest crowd, sometimes against their better judgement. Case in point, SFxT. Mr. Wizard had a little something to say on the SRK irc afterwards [02:02:27] <@MrWizard> man [02:02:32] <@MrWizard> thats why i said no [02:02:35] <@MrWizard> to a live camera [02:02:43] <@MrWizard> you wouldnt have wanted to see my face [02:02:48] <@MrWizard> when i was talking about sfxt lol
Kurushii Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Hopefully I can make it out to FR. A lot of Florida looking at it to fill that bracket. :3
Airk Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Being a side tournament also puts Blazble in the same league as Guilty Gear, 3rd Strike, and CvS2. Being a side tournament doesn't mean it's a bad game. No, it just means that it's a game nobody plays. :P I know it's all about the numbers, and I'm not faulting the management, but asking why I'm disappointed is pretty stupid. Oh well. It's not like I ever like anything popular anyway.
Nemesis Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Oh well. It's not like I ever like anything popular anyway. Look @ your main *waits for flames*
Spring_Raid Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 snip I see what you mean. Guess it didn't disappoint me as much because I've seen this coming for a long time. I can't even tell you how many times I've traveled tournaments in NC, VA & GA only to find piss poor entrants at BB tournaments. Also, with the amount of entrant BB got at EVO last year (I think it was around 240 or so), it would have been a long shot for this to come to the main stage. Long story short, if the BB scene in general would have shown more support at tourneys & majors this may have not happened.
BatousaiJ Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 It is what it is. I never expected much from EVO and this about shows why. Now I'm not sure if I'm going to make it to EVO this year. My motivation to be there dropped significantly. We'll see though.
Airk Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Look @ your main *waits for flames* Precisely. :P And BJ pretty much precisely sums up my feelings on the subject.
pktazn Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 This may sound hypocritical from me since I can't make it to EVO this year either But I would say go anyway if you have the chance to show that you support the scene.
BatousaiJ Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Mehhh... It's still awhile till EVO so I'll see what I feel like doing then.
Airk Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Pretty unlikely. I'd rather travel to a smaller even that actually supports BB. If Evo isn't going to support my game, I don't see why I should support Evo. I literally have zero to negative interest in all the games in their lineup. If I were to watch ANYTHING, it would be SF4, patheticially enough. I can't even follow Marvel, KOF has never appealed to me and 13 didn't change whatever it was I didn't like about it. SC5 is basically a non-event for me, MK all but causes me physical pain to look at and uh... LOL SFxT. :P
pktazn Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 Have fun at a high chance of BB not showing up at Evo again then. I'm not saying I agree with the fact that they shafted BB but if no one is willing to show up for it even if it's only there as a side tournament then I don't see how they'd be convinced that they were wrong to not have it in their main lineup. However, again this is only if you can and are willing to go because I shouldn't be the one to dictate how you spend your money.
Airk Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Have fun at a high chance of BB not showing up at Evo again then. I'm not saying I agree with the fact that they shafted BB but if no one is willing to show up for it even if it's only there as a side tournament then I don't see how they'd be convinced that they were wrong to not have it in their main lineup. By it having damn fine numbers at tournaments that actually support it? Half the people arguing against BBs inclusion are pointing to recent tournament numbers and going "Haha, look, Skullgirls is getting more entrants than BB" without considering the actual situations of the games (Like the skullgirls tourney being free to enter with a big donated pot, and the fact that BB is essentially between versions right now because people have been jumping ship for extend.). Seriously. We're all supposed to go to Evo and throw the "Biggest side tournament ever!!!!!111eleven" and then they'll see how wrong they are and admit us next year? Are you kidding me? /cynical.
Shruikon Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 mAc has the right idea. It'll be like that Blazblue Revolution except Blazblue EVOlution.
Airk Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Just make our own EVO. I would go. I have no idea how to make it happen though.
pktazn Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) By it having damn fine numbers at tournaments that actually support it? Half the people arguing against BBs inclusion are pointing to recent tournament numbers and going "Haha, look, Skullgirls is getting more entrants than BB" without considering the actual situations of the games (Like the skullgirls tourney being free to enter with a big donated pot, and the fact that BB is essentially between versions right now because people have been jumping ship for extend.). There's a reason they're laughing at the fact that Skullgirls has more entrants even if it's free or the fact that we're transitioning to a new version (which has happened to other games in the line-up as well). BB has been around for a lot longer than Skullgirls and BB still has less entrants in general at tournaments despite a lot of people being passionate about the game and from how people are responding to it not being in the line-up, it's obvious to see the passion is there but people have to do something about it. And I wasn't talking exclusively only going to EVO, (though I realize that's what my other post implies so that's my fault) but like you said, it would help to go anywhere you can to support BB if possible, especially if it's one of those major tournaments. But I can agree with mAc as well. We can just make our own EVO. :3 EDIT: I realize by now I'm just beating a dead horse with a stick for my point so I'm just gonna stop here on my two cents about EVO this year. Edited January 5, 2012 by pktazn
Shruikon Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Skullgirls does also have that whole "new and shiny" thing going for it too though. Eitherway, I'm more annoyed that lolSFxT and MK9 are in the roster over BB tbh since I have a pretty low opinion of both of those. Not that I'd be going to EVO anyway, but last years EVO was the first I watched and I was under the impression BB did pretty well for itself considering the finals were done in the early morning and whatnot, and it's a disappointment that I won't get to see it on stream again this year. Oh well.
pktazn Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 I believe there will still be a stream for it iirc.
Airk Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 There's a reason they're laughing at the fact that Skullgirls has more entrants even if it's free or the fact that we're transitioning to a new version (which has happened to other games in the line-up as well). BB has been around for a lot longer than Skullgirls and BB still has less entrants in general at tournaments despite a lot of people being passionate about the game and from how people are responding to it not being in the line-up, it's obvious to see the passion is there but people have to do something about it. And I wasn't talking exclusively only going to EVO, (though I realize that's what my other post implies so that's my fault) but like you said, it would help to go anywhere you can to support BB if possible, especially if it's one of those major tournaments. I'm sorry, but it's not fair to compare "Hey, since you're here anyway, just play this new game that no one is good at and if you win you get $1k!" to "Book a trip out here to play an old edition of the game you like." If I go to a tournament this year, it will be because of BB and nothing else.
Eshi Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Hopefully I can make it out to FR. A lot of Florida looking at it to fill that bracket. :3if yall make it to final round then we'll make it back for CEO. deal? :D
pktazn Posted January 5, 2012 Author Posted January 5, 2012 @Airk: Fair enough. @Eshi: When's FR again? The beginning of March? I'll try to make it out myself but no promises since graduating has a slightly higher priority atm. If I have the time I'll definitely try since I can drive there haha.
TheGreatReptar Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 It's March 2nd-4th. I'm going to be 21 on that Sunday. FR this year is going to be insanely great xP
Airk Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 It's March 2nd-4th. I'm going to be 21 on that Sunday. FR this year is going to be insanely great xP Tell me more. :P
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