[CP] Rachel Alucard Gameplay Discussion

[samthegreat]

Nah I really don't think that's him lol

Edited July 2, 2013 by samthegreat

[Zoular]

Has the brackets been updated since tofurr posted it? Has "Uchida Shota - Watamo" have anything to do with N-Otoko, or am I looking at the wrong thing?

[tofurr]

The bracket was changed. There was just a single bye, now there's two. This "N O - Nameko" person was moved to a different bracket.

[Celerity]

For what it's worth, Dogura is in my P4A bracket. T_T

[tofurr]

I can find GG and BB stuff with Dogura, but no P4A stuff... >.>;

Any Rachel players going to AX? I wish I was, it'd be nice to give the game a go...

[TD]

l am not

meh, i'd rather some lab time over flailing around uselessly for a day.

[gli]

If we could get two Rachel's playing then we can lab it up arcade style lol

[Tari]

If we could get two Rachel's playing then we can lab it up arcade style lol

Good luck! Hahaha. :P

[kirbster]

l am not

meh, i'd rather some lab time over flailing around uselessly for a day.

This reminds me, how come you didn't come to UMAD

[TD]

Shit happened that I'd rather not talk about

[samthegreat]

I talked to N-O on twitter and told him he was a huge inspiration to NA Rachel players watching his matches on YouTube. He seemed very happy to hear it.

I also asked about his impressions of CP Rachel and it boils down to the same idea I had. She could be considered S-tier but only in the hands of a very smart player can her full potential be demonstrated. He also said some of her new combos are difficult and that he'd try to improve his execution.

[Zoular]

Should of said Rachel players of the "west" D:

Good to hear he's still experimenting with combos

[tofurr]

What is N-O's twitter? I just finally jumped on the twitter band wagon.

[samthegreat]

https://twitter.com/No_104KANA

[gamester]

I recently returned to twitter. I'll follow

Should of said Rachel players of the "west" D:

Yeah, don't forget about Europe xD

It takes me forever to get used to combos, I'll try and not be discouraged by the difficulty. I'm hoping to make a fresh start with CP Rachel.

[TD]

seems like j2c knockdown got better. if the foe doesnt tech immediately, land 2a 236a will punish it for low damage and another knockdown.

not sure how good a lobelia knockdown is, especially when hit early in the active frames. seems useful though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP32Dc623TQ at 13:30

[gamester]

Was browsing MFC. Here's a small look at the box Rachel should be arriving in:

EDIT: MFC are onto us. I'll just link it in the Group if you'd like to see what the image was.

Next image I find, I'll put in the group to try and get people talking there (Part of my made up campaign to get activity going)

I could hug her right now. October. Hurry up!

Edited July 5, 2013 by gamester

[Tari]

Ughhh. I still need a copy of that.

seems like j2c knockdown got better. if the foe doesnt tech immediately, land 2a 236a will punish it for low damage and another knockdown.

not sure how good a lobelia knockdown is, especially when hit early in the active frames. seems useful though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP32Dc623TQ at 13:30

Pretty nice to see. I imagine it won't work after longer combos, but those tend to not end in j.2C knockdown anyway.

Edited July 5, 2013 by Tari

[gamester]

Commentator said it was a laggy set up but what did you think of CP Rachel Polka?

(I was waiting all day for Rachel to come on stream)

lol, did the commentator say 2C was a nice DP or am I hearing things.

[Tari]

He was just saying Polka used it well, haha. And then he misinterpreted the counter hit and thought 2C was punishable on hit.

[Kuuhaku]

I'm not sure if 2C is actually punishable on hit, but it is extremely crappy. It's not a good idea to press buttons after. You'll probably either trade or get counter hit.

Other things I noticed:

Lotus does more damage than I thought. Two B lotus does 450~ damage.

Lotus only travels a set distance. If it hits someone, it'll stick on them. It also seems to stick on them on block. However, if the bats have to travel too far, they'll disappear.

Lobelia starter is really hard to combo after unless it hits point blank range.

4B starter into 5B does not work. Could only connect 5A after. I have no idea how 6A 4B dash 5B is supposed to work without wind.

I didn't check j.A on Noel and Hazama. I probably should have, but there was only one setup for stick the whole weekend and it was a one and done before you had to stand back in line. I spent time trying to learn the combo paths.

Astral motion is backwards BBL. 412364C.

Aoniku kind of? works. I never managed to do the full combo. It'd usually drop at the second j.C.

You actually can move during TD, but noticeably much later than how it used to be.

j.2C is very different. I think in general it just works differently. Sometimes I'd get the level 2 bounce and sometimes I wouldn't. Level 2 bounce is also different. j.2C seems to fall much slower than normal. Level 3 fatal j.2C might be only possible with the A lotus. But, it doesn't seem like you can do much after so it doesn't really seem worth it.

5CC and 3C SMP makes them tech immediately.

I also had a hard time trying to figure out what to do after BBL. And overdrive, it just seems to make her supers do more damage. I didn't really notice anything with wind regain, but I only used it like twice total.

Air A lobelia in the corner seems pretty useful. It covers a lot of space.

Edited July 8, 2013 by Bohemian Polka

[Stoneroth]

I was inputting 2363214C for her AH when I was messing around with CP in Japan. (Either that or 2141236C, I swear I posted it in this thread somewhere but can't seem to find it :/)

Anyway, I was hitting it every attempt so I would like to find out what the 'actual' input is.

[Kuuhaku]

I was inputting 2363214C for her AH when I was messing around with CP in Japan. (Either that or 2141236C, I swear I posted it in this thread somewhere but can't seem to find it :/)

Anyway, I was hitting it every attempt so I would like to find out what the 'actual' input is.

According to the JP wiki, you're right. I guess I read it wrong.

[Chaoschao222]

Stop doing this to me, Polka, I keep putting wrong inputs on the wiki, what's right? D:

[Kurushii]

If you guys were confused, why didn't you ask me to look it up in the mook's character guide section?