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As for this old post

http://www26.atwiki.jp/myuu12/pages/98.html

5c, 2c, jc is faster?

I think thats what its saying

There's something about 5b, 2b and j2c but i cant understand it

2c lost head invincibility

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wYBMdH-4FQ&t=12m16s

I think 2c still has head invulnerability, otherwise i can't imagine a late 2c winning against j.c

edit: especially because 2c will make Mu's hurtbox larger to the point as if she was standing

Edited by bakahyl
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wYBMdH-4FQ&t=12m16s

I think 2c still has head invulnerability, otherwise i can't imagine a late 2c winning against j.c

edit: especially because 2c will make Mu's hurtbox larger to the point as if she was standing

Yeah, I've seen it win a couple other times too, where a move without head invuln wouldn't have, unless I'm mistaken. Maybe the hitbox/hurtbox changed, or the source might of had the wrong impression... There are days when I feel like 2c's head invuln is a lie, in EX.

I'll take ten.

you sure about that? you can see the price on this shot : http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4319/hipsb.jpg

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I thought 2c in cp didnt have any head invincibility frames or maybe it just lost some more frames.

I know the other mu-12 player did their Jc too early cuz the hitbox wasnt even about to hit the mu-12 that their 2c.

I'll use 6a since its not as risky and give about the same dmg.

I'm sorry but I dont like mu-12 enough to have a figure of her and that price:(

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I'm rather curious

if they sculpted her breasts underneath like they did with Makoto's figure

I'd still be more than happy to shell out $150~ for that, though.

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While i haven't been fighting against really tough hakumen's these days, i am still bothered by the fact that i can't think of any oki's and setups against him, especially when i get him in the corner. Because of any of his counters and hotaru, the only thing i have been doing is a j.2c knockdown and a charged 6d. So is there something better?

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While i haven't been fighting against really tough hakumen's these days, i am still bothered by the fact that i can't think of any oki's and setups against him, especially when i get him in the corner. Because of any of his counters and hotaru, the only thing i have been doing is a j.2c knockdown and a charged 6d. So is there something better?

Meaty throw -> Late Meaty Stein is all you have that beats all of Hakumen's options.

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There isn't any setup that works in 100% situations. Or at least, that isn't the usual scenario. You just have to go with what you think will work best on the particular player.

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Tried meaty throws and i have seen them teching them, use hotaru or air counter

If you're timing your stein correctly it will always hit them out of jump startup.

Hakumen has no reversal options vs this callout.

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How does it work? Do a stein blast + throw at the same time?

Throw hits meaty, stein hits a frame or two after the throw. If he gets thrown the stein will whiff, if he tries to jump the throw will whiff because he's in jump startup, but he'll get hit out of jump startup before it completes by the stein.

Well now that I think about it, you could jump during your very first frame of wakeup, then jump cancel cancel into yukikaze before the stein hits you.

Assuming you have literal 1f timing.

Edited by C0R
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What if he doesn't tech, or rolls. Or techs late.

The stein is coming out regardless, you have plenty of time to react to his tech choice and choose accordingly. Hell you can whiff 2b on his wakeup, if he rolls or doesn't tech it will pick him up. If he neutral techs it will whiff and you can still meaty throw.

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I'm not sure if you can jump cancel cancel into Yukikaze, but I see the rest of your point.

Unless it has some kind of unique engine-breaking property, you can.

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I updated the video thread.

#2 ranking Dan Mu-12 player MOS also there if ppl care

he's 15 dan atm and other good mu-12 players like dio, kotsubu and etc are there also

havent watched any of the matches yet but they should be good

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That sample is glorious, but I just knew they would cockblock us at the chorus part.

Also who is MOS and where has this Mu player been all my life.

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