God_Of_Olympus Posted December 28, 2009 Posted December 28, 2009 Ok, cheer-up attempt failed we're between Tager and Bang Tier...
choysauce Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 we're falling into the vortex again! we gotta stay positive. what do u guys think about CH 6b dash up throw? is there enough time for them to mash out a 2a/5a. i think tager can't mash anything out after it i was trying this out with mike z. it seems like u get enough time to keep pressure on them at the very least would there be enough time to get out pumpkin without it being punished? can't remember if it was special cancelable on hit. probably not right?
Tari Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 we're falling into the vortex again! we gotta stay positive. what do u guys think about CH 6b dash up throw? is there enough time for them to mash out a 2a/5a. i think tager can't mash anything out after it i was trying this out with mike z. it seems like u get enough time to keep pressure on them at the very least would there be enough time to get out pumpkin without it being punished? can't remember if it was special cancelable on hit. probably not right? Sounds like it'd work, but also sounds like something people will just throwbreak after a while. And yes, you can pumpkin off of a CH 6b, as it is special cancellable. Not sure if it's fast enough to be safe, though, and/or to resume pressure with.
GenoWhirl Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 We really need to start writing a game plan, like, a thread for the basic CS Rachel guide.
God_Of_Olympus Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 We really need to start writing a game plan, like, a thread for the basic CS Rachel guide. i agree but if i see time out tactics...
GenoWhirl Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 We'll have to try and win with them then, no time for whining
Alex073088 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCR631uOMPU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZN4TLedTc Here, the ones from that site that had the Rachel got dam this is what the fuck im talkin bout, from the looks of it no the wind doesnt charge as fast but, when it does charge it charges much much faster then the normal charge speed of blazblue ct, in addiction having the pumpkin not go as far kinda keeps it close to u so u wont have to resummon as much. and atleast there is no pumpkin resummon time like ti was in the loketest.
Tari Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 got dam this is what the fuck im talkin bout, from the looks of it no the wind doesnt charge as fast but, when it does charge it charges much much faster then the normal charge speed of blazblue ct, in addiction having the pumpkin not go as far kinda keeps it close to u so u wont have to resummon as much. and atleast there is no pumpkin resummon time like ti was in the loketest. There's no re-summon time, but you are unable to re-summon the pumpkin while one is out on the field. If your pumpkin floats into a less-than-useful position, there's not much you can do about it other than use extra wind to bring it back into play or try to push/pull your opponent into range of it.
God_Of_Olympus Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 as far as the guide goes someone like Tari, Kro_, or soniti will have to write since they're only ones who've tried CS Rachel, but with Kro_ and soniti focusing on tsubaki it looks we'll all have to rely on Tari for this guide
Tari Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 as far as the guide goes someone like Tari, Kro_, or soniti will have to write since they're only ones who've tried CS Rachel, but with Kro_ and soniti focusing on tsubaki it looks we'll all have to rely on Tari for this guide Eh? I'm a pretty crappy player, and I don't even check the JP BBS for stuff or care about frame data. Soniti and Kro are far more capable for this, and you still have wuku and the others who've played the game. Might as well just figure stuff out slowly, then just have someone compile it all at some point.
kro_ Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 as far as the guide goes someone like Tari, Kro_, or soniti will have to write since they're only ones who've tried CS Rachel, but with Kro_ and soniti focusing on tsubaki it looks we'll all have to rely on Tari for this guide Not it. Might as well just figure stuff out slowly, then just have someone compile it all at some point. This. That's what the combo and video discussion threads are for. Most of the information you want is already in there if you dig a bit. It's hard to compile things because most of what we have now is untested, we don't have frame data, and testing stuff at an arcade is difficult.
Alex073088 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 There's no re-summon time, but you are unable to re-summon the pumpkin while one is out on the field. If your pumpkin floats into a less-than-useful position, there's not much you can do about it other than use extra wind to bring it back into play or try to push/pull your opponent into range of it. thats not to bad, not being able to resummon a pumpkin while one is out already because of the fact that the pumpkin goes away so fast versus the last version. i think they did this to allow players a chance to escape pressure when she had 4 bars of winds and frog on them with pumpkin and block string re-summmon pumpkin pressure to place yet another frog down and keep the opponent there till they could escape, guard break, or just die......but they made to where its kinda unreliable to really play well with this character and much easier to win with the others plus its hard keeping certain characters out effectively like litchi(pole return,uppercut,pole spin), bang(nails loli teleport), jin blades of ice,
Konton Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 we're between Tager and Bang Tier... Actually... I'd say somewhere below. So. Cat chair. Faster? More invulnerability? What's up with it?
GenoWhirl Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 I beleive it comes out faster, someone said something about an increased hit box but I'm not sure
GenoWhirl Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9238453 Genesic needs a nerf ._.
Alex073088 Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9238453 Genesic needs a nerf ._. how do u make the vidoe play?
God_Of_Olympus Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 it looks like we can still j2C crossup with a frog pretty much about to shock and then cancel into pumpkin safely
GenoWhirl Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 how do u make the vidoe play? Make an account And to be completely honest, I think the only reason Tager and Hakumen can beat Rachel is because of their soviet damage I mean lolgenesic
Kain Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Or use the Nicovideo redirector if you don't want to make one... http://mmcafe.com/nico.html
killionaire Posted December 29, 2009 Posted December 29, 2009 Or use the Nicovideo redirector if you don't want to make one... http://mmcafe.com/nico.html I'll need to save this for future reference.. I did not know about the existence of the redirector.. Thank you..
Moogster Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 12/16 Gamechariot Tournament http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9242606 Matsu(RA) vs Shadow(BA) Matsu(RA) vs Bang - Semis Matsu(RA) vs Litchi - Final You guys will like this.
GenoWhirl Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 the taokaka match is meh... But I had a himesamagasm when she beat bang I was like YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES HIME SAMAAAAAAA Matsu's my new hero :'D
Moogster Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 That wasn't him vs Taokaka anyway that's why I didn't mention it. First time a Rachel reached finals too I think. So that's Matsu not Eru? I'll edit it.
GenoWhirl Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Hime-sama on a final, that's enough to make my day ^_________^
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