Online "Etiquette"

[toanenadiz]

Holy shit, this. Part of the reason I don't go online is because some douche is gonna come up and body me with a double perfect 4 times in a row. What the hell would I learn from that?

How to not get double perfected 4 times in a row? What would you really learn from someone who isn't really trying to play the game?

[Circuitous]

Here's where the tension forms, he can still beat roommate one with the most basic things because he basically exploits all of Noel's invincibility (He's remarkably good at timing for how little he plays) and grab--combos. There's a lot of frustration, hell he even beats me now and then--YET he can't beat the hell mode AI at all and gets stomped online by most people.

Hell AI cheats and netplay will fuck up his otherwise good timing, so this isn't surprising. Your abilities against the CPU or on netplay are not strictly indicative of your abilities against others.

Holy shit, this. Part of the reason I don't go online is because some douche is gonna come up and body me with a double perfect 4 times in a row. What the hell would I learn from that?

How to lose, hopefully. No one owes a bad player anything. If you want someone to go easy on you, arrange a match beforehand. Don't just hop online and expect people to cater to your needs.

Netplay Etiquette: Do your best, don't bitch, don't RQ, and say GGs if you can. Anything else is up to you, and you shouldn't expect anyone else to follow.

[Moy_X7]

I do consider some playstyles cheap, such as upbacking, but I never say anything about it because there's no way to support my... belief?

It's just something I wouldn't do because I don't enjoy playing against people like that.

All of the above do not apply to pink throws in lag though.

Green throws are ok since people usually yomi break them anyway, but pink throws are broken on reaction, which is butchered by input delay.

That's it I guess.

As far as up+back goes, you need to come up with anti-jump strings. Purposely create tiny holes in your pressure so that the opponent will get caught during jump start-up for a free combo. That and IAD throw/air pressure jump happy people.

Purple throws, you should have no problem teching them lest the lag is really THAT bad. You only get like a full second to tech them .

Trying to tech greens when you don't expect them is a whole other ball game though

[AeternumSomnium]

Hell AI cheats and netplay will fuck up his otherwise good timing, so this isn't surprising. Your abilities against the CPU or on netplay are not strictly indicative of your abilities against others.

I can certainly agree with this, the AI's movements and actions are nothing short of fucking ridiculous sometimes. What I was trying to say was, it's very--peculiar--how he manages to troll us while putting so little effort into practice, while we do. It's like we're in the twilight zone sometimes I swear. :l

Purple throws, you should have no problem teching them lest the lag is really THAT bad. You only get like a full second to tech them .

Trying to tech greens when you don't expect them is a whole other ball game though

This is indeed another hell that Lag brings, the dreaded throw tech that seems virtually impossible. Purple is simple enough for the most part, but green is just damn near impossible sometimes. All of my rage.

[Kriegdrache]

Krieg, we all start somewhere...but last I checked, the place we start is ENJOYING the game first...not getting the crap beat out of us.

That's why, when I start learning a fighting game, I like to play people who are also still learning. I don't mind getting sandbagged so long as I learn something.

NoMercyinDisDojo

tbh, if someone is just starting out with the game, I probably would try to avoid playing them, unless they're a friend. If they have prior experience with the game and just wanna mess with a new character, then I'm down to mash buttons.

[Agni]

How to not get double perfected 4 times in a row? What would you really learn from someone who isn't really trying to play the game?

I'm still not sure what I'm supposed to take from getting owned that badly, how am I supposed to learn anything from abject failure like that? I know, I know, "you learn from mistakes" but there's a limit.

[mAc Chaos]

I'm still not sure what I'm supposed to take from getting owned that badly, how am I supposed to learn anything from abject failure like that?

How to lose without getting salty.

I guess anyone would get salty from getting double perfected though.

Edited May 22, 2012 by mAc Chaos

[Star-Demon]

Your controller was stiffer than stale bread.

Meh, this is just from my perspective.

I just set up Guilty Gear - I'll give you this: Aside from my video hardware concern, the controller IS pretty frigging stiff.

Anyways - we're talking about etiquette - Just be nice.

[Agni]

Okay, I was getting a little salty* there, but I've had it happen to me in other FGs. I guess I can learn spacing from matches. But I'd like to get a little more familiar with Plat before going online.

*: I need to point out how dumb this word sounds, just use "whiny", no need to invent a whole new word to mean "being a whiny ass".

[mAc Chaos]

dat salt

You already used the term getting bodied earlier. You are already being assimilated. Embrace it, and you too can give people salt shakers after they lose to you.

[toanenadiz]

I'm still not sure what I'm supposed to take from getting owned that badly, how am I supposed to learn anything from abject failure like that? I know, I know, "you learn from mistakes" but there's a limit.

The only difference between losing when you only had to hit your opponent one more time and getting double perfected is that you made a lot more mistakes in the latter. You can still figure out what mistakes you made in matches where you were double perfected.

[Agni]

dat salt

You already used the term getting bodied earlier. You are already being assimilated. Embrace it, and you too can give people salt shakers after they lose to you.

Yeah, I guess you could say that one of the things that's motivating me is the hope that I one day get good enough to get hate mail on PSN because I out-zoned some scrub like crazy with Rachel.

I'd never ragequit (that's just pathetic), even if I was getting blown to pieces by a pro. I guess a real problem is that even when I get an opening in, it's really hard to figure out what to do. If my opponent could counter every possible tactic I have (which wouldn't be that many), I'm going to have think damn hard to formulate a way to get in there and start doing some damage...I suppose that's what you mean fighting people better than you can really help you get better?

[Sechs]

Did I accidently stumble into thread for Demon's Souls/Dark Souls netplay conduct?

The only thing I expect of an opponent is to not RQ and don't hold back once he/she accepts the match. Win or lose, learn from the experience and try not to linger on it.

Nowadays, I reserve GGs for my PSN list & when CSEX's awesome match-making arranges for me to fight the same person 12 times in a row on ranked.

[AeternumSomnium]

I guess a real problem is that even when I get an opening in, it's really hard to figure out what to do. If my opponent could counter every possible tactic I have (which wouldn't be that many), I'm going to have think damn hard to formulate a way to get in there and start doing some damage...

Tactics and their development is half the game I swear. You can know the most intense combos ever, you can be the most well adapted to your main ever, but it doesn't matter if your tactics aren't--solid. I feel really bad for slower players, hell Valkenhayn gives me a hard time now and then cause sometimes I'll fail to get the hell out of the way fast enough. (Especially against people who cover ground like it's nothing, once my wolf meter runs out I'm practically immobile.)

Did I accidently stumble into thread for Demon's Souls/Dark Souls netplay conduct?

The only thing I expect of an opponent is to not RQ and don't hold back once he/she accepts the match. Win or lose, learn from the experience and try not to linger on it.

Nowadays, I reserve GGs for my PSN list & when CSEX's awesome match-making arranges for me to fight the same person 12 times in a row on ranked.

All of my rage, especially when you fight the same asshole multiple times--to really worsen matters, I've often checked the matches in custom search and there's like 4 other people. To add insult to injury, the fluctuating lag rates (Coinciding with delay shifting delay time) is something else the rank match system fails to do properly half the time--yet that's a bit more forgiveable I suppose.

[Kuraudou]

Only thing I follow is Don't Purple Throw. It seems like...I dunno, I feel it's a cheap form of additional damage if it follows through(which seems to happen more than not on ranked matches.) I still remember getting Purple Throw looped by a Hazama once. No matter how much I tried to break, the game never recognized it. -___-

Course after the first one, I end up trying to do the same. Two can play this game.

[SenXXi]

Only thing I follow is Don't Purple Throw. It seems like...I dunno, I feel it's a cheap form of additional damage if it follows through(which seems to happen more than not on ranked matches.) I still remember getting Purple Throw looped by a Hazama once. No matter how much I tried to break, the game never recognized it. -___-

Course after the first one, I end up trying to do the same. Two can play this game.

LOL purple throws give you ample time to tech even on netplay. If youre opponent is doing a "purple throw loop" on you then you should know when to tech everytime since its a loop. If you're mashing you'll get throw reject miss so since you already know when the grab will come just wait and tech it.

as for etiquette I agree with the statement of all's fair, just dont RQ. For the most part I dont blame my losses on anything else but on my own mistakes. If you know why you're losing and accept what youre doing wrong you'll bypass getting salty and maybe in the future be the salt bringer instead (o_o)b

[YukiBlue]

1) Totally against Purple grabs online. Teching that shit is damn unfair for new players.

2) Never attack an AFK player. Keep Jabbing until they get back (Maybe 2A them incase they dont come back...)

3) No RQ'ing or Ragemail. Ever.

4) Be Respectful. Dont mash DP 24/7. Have a good fair fight that shows skill and not button pressing speed.

[Amadeus46Art]

1) Totally against Purple grabs online. Teching that shit is damn unfair for new players.

2) Never attack an AFK player. Keep Jabbing until they get back (Maybe 2A them incase they dont come back...)

3) No RQ'ing or Ragemail. Ever.

4) Be Respectful. Dont mash DP 24/7. Have a good fair fight that shows skill and not button pressing speed.

1) Do it till they learn to tech it. Coddling new players does nothing for them. If your opponent can't beat a tactic, why not use it? They could do the same to you if they wanted.

2) Fair enough. I normally just attack until I have the life lead unless it's a large discrepancy, though normally if you have to go AFK mid match it's probably best to just leave the room.

3) Yes.

4) Again, see point one. If your opponent can't punish your tactic of "show no respect", why change tactics? They can learn how to properly block and punish. If you lose to dumb tactics like that it's your own fault, not the guy you're fighting.

[Spring_Raid]

I only ask for two simple things:

1) Don't ragequit

2) Play me at your best

I'm the kind of person that doesn't mind if you send hatemail, talk shit or if I lose 0-30 (if you've seen my streams, you'd notice, lol). All I ask is that you legitimately try to curb stomp me every match and don't quit if you lose.

[AeternumSomnium]

Definitely seeing a pattern with anti ragequitting.

I've never ragequit before but God damn I'm angry enough to half the time. This game really brings out the rage in me. A lot of ragers and rage quitters online seem to really boil when you are beating them but personally, I get most angry when I mess shit up; especially combos I do all the time.

>Messed up a bread and butter combo I do all the time the other night

>Cost me the match

I nearly chucked my controller through the screen lol. It just feels so stupid, it's like losing to lag.

Meh.

[YukiBlue]

I will quit laggy games. I always give it 10 seconds but if It's genuinely screwing up my combos im out.

[dualseeker]

I always don't like when people go out of their way just to purple grab you after the match is done X__X. Always ticks me off...

[suna19]

I always don't like when people go out of their way just to purple grab you after the match is done X__X. Always ticks me off...

yeah, that always gets to me. especially if they RC just so they can get the throw.

I'll admit I rage quit a few times when CT came out, but i have thankfully gotten past that. I do leave lobbies feeling pretty salty though, mostly when I feel that every button I pressed was the wrong button

this applies more to marvel since there's more time after the end, but I despise teabaggers. I would rather be corpse-beaten. although I don't hesitate to do it in retaliation. and I sometimes inadvertently teabag when I was going to crouch block after throwing an item and the item kills. I feel kinda bad when I do that

Edited May 26, 2012 by suna19

[ehrik]

Bb players are probably the worst when it comes to "etiquette". All they do is troll, and whether they win or lose they go "haha I trolled them good".

That said, u should just play to win. Fuck the other guy.

[Airk]

Bb players are probably the worst when it comes to "etiquette". All they do is troll, and whether they win or lose they go "haha I trolled them good".

That said, u should just play to win. Fuck the other guy.

Either PSN is a far, far bigger hellhole full of morons than XBL is in the BB community, or this is nonsense. I've gotten more hatemail in 6 months of playing SSF4 than I have in like 2 years of BB.