Errol Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 All hits of OD calamity sword are overheads. Good shit right? Close to OD blackhole.
someonewhodied Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 azrael phanlax can be clashed out by azrael 2C
RWA Announcer Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 All this Nu-13 talk has me curious Errol, has Dogura said anything about switching to her full-time from Azrael? Because he's been playing her ALOT lately! Speaking of The Tyrant, what's the general consensus on him right now? Even if he is weaker overall compared to 1.1, he still, well, looks like the same old Azrael, but I barely see him being used at all anymore.
bakahyl Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Terumi's 5D is level 4 . . . That would be it's attack level, not projectile level. His 5d can't even fully destroy Mu's habaya, which is a multi hit level 1 projectile All hits of OD calamity sword are overheads. Good shit right? Close to OD blackhole. OD blackhole is overrated, because apparently certain guardpoints like sledge and mu's dp can completely nullify it when stopping one hit, while the regular blackhole goes on much longer
AchedSphinx Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 The only projectile lv3 I knew of was Platinum's AH back in Extend. Seems they changed it now though.
bakahyl Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Also necro is right about Terumi's 5d, it's also a strike with projectile properties. Because Mu's dp (i really like to talk about that move alot) can properly clash with it, in which mu can cancel a normal or special into it, while mu can't cancel her dp on a clash with pure projectiles (not counting the puppets because they have odd properties themselves)
Verimeloni Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Sure you guys aren't confusing attack levels & projectile levels? Phalanx is lv 2 projectile and in CP2 so are Nu's swords (Luna swords in 1.1). That's why they clash. Azrael is fine, Dogura bodies people with him. Not sure if Nu is he's new main but then again he's won Arc Revo with Azrael, might as well try something new~
bakahyl Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Sure you guys aren't confusing attack levels & projectile levels? Phalanx is lv 2 projectile and in CP2 so are Nu's swords (Luna swords in 1.1). That's why they clash. Azrael is fine, Dogura bodies people with him. Not sure if Nu is he's new main but then again he's won Arc Revo with Azrael, might as well try something new~ Problem is, after some testings Phalanx seems very odd It clashes with some lvl 2 projectiles (mu's kagami, platinum's missiles), but it flat out beats tempest dahlia and spark bolt which are lvl 2 projectiles edit: phalanx goes through Nu's j.2d in luna mode, while luna mode nu's j.2d beats Mu's habaya Apparently his phalanx loses to all the junk that unlimited Rachel's Dahlia summons but he manages to destroy half of it and it completely loses to Jin's ice wave super So maybe it's a lvl 2 projectile with higher durability (probably 2 hits, since it just clashes with platinum's missiles) that replenishes it's durability (like Jin's ice wave super)
Ziggy_Stardust Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Ok, so it would be canceled out by Nu's Swords now? Now, I have no idea what projectile levels are, I guess I'm a tad bit noobish. But from what I understand- CP 1.1 Nu Swords-Lvl 1 Spark Bolt-Lvl2 Phalanx-Plows right through both of em CP 2.0 Nu Swords-Lvl 2 Phalanx-Gets cancelled by Nu Swords ....So Phalanx got nerfed? Also so, what's up with this Phalanx cancelable Growler, are there any I-frames on the Phalanx or could I get snuffed by Nu's 4D? I'm switching to Arakune for 2.0, but I plan on heavily subbing Azrael still.
RurouniLoneWolf Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 All hits of OD calamity sword are overheads. Good shit right? Close to OD blackhole. Doesn't seem too bad since from what I understand, it requires 100 meter to do as well. OD and 100 meter is a lot of resources to have to burn so I don't think we'll see it too often. That said, I wish ASW wouldn't make things like this an issue to begin with >,<
bakahyl Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Ok, so it would be canceled out by Nu's Swords now? Now, I have no idea what projectile levels are, I guess I'm a tad bit noobish. But from what I understand- CP 1.1 Nu Swords-Lvl 1 Spark Bolt-Lvl2 Phalanx-Plows right through both of em CP 2.0 Nu Swords-Lvl 2 Phalanx-Gets cancelled by Nu Swords ....So Phalanx got nerfed? Also so, what's up with this Phalanx cancelable Growler, are there any I-frames on the Phalanx or could I get snuffed by Nu's 4D? I'm switching to Arakune for 2.0, but I plan on heavily subbing Azrael still. Nu's swords in dia mode (more or less the old nu mode) are lvl 1, her luna mode (more like lambda from the cs series) are lvl 2 Nu's swords in cp2 apparently start out at lvl 2 and become lvl 1 when they travel further (or something like that). If phalanx stays the same, then it should still go through nu's swords because they can already go through luna mode nu's swords. However.. Nu's 5d and phalanx don't hit eachother normally because her swords go under phalanx (see it like 2 Sagat's from the street fighter series using a high and a low tiger shot against eachother) and that's why i had to test Nu's j.2d vs a growler
Ziggy_Stardust Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Ah I see. I typically don't use phalanx too often. Hell, I rarely use growler against Nu, Arakune, or Mu due to how easily it is baited and punished. Good to know about the upper/lower Tiger Cannon deal with the Phalanx vs. 5D thing. I just wasn't too sure on how well that Growler into Phalanx thing would work in the matchup, especially when Azrael is stuck in a Gravity Well.
Myoro Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 What are dolls considered projectile-wise? Their attacks can be deflected by moves like voltic charge, sledge, and afterburner, but then magically trade with or beat growler. The dolls themselves seem to be able to tank any level of projectile short of other dolls and Amane's C moves (Which I think are just detached strikes...)
shtkn Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 dolls are their own special category. You can think of them as a hittable object that is throw immune, like Rachel's George XIII and persona attacks in P4U
TD Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 What are dolls considered projectile-wise? Their attacks can be deflected by moves like voltic charge, sledge, and afterburner, but then magically trade with or beat growler. The dolls themselves seem to be able to tank any level of projectile short of other dolls and Amane's C moves (Which I think are just detached strikes...)amane scarves are indeed physical property and not projectiles. In fact, the only projectiles he has is the hariken (ground) drill and the super hariken drill.
Zouf Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Doesn't seem too bad since from what I understand, it requires 100 meter to do as well. OD and 100 meter is a lot of resources to have to burn so I don't think we'll see it too often. That said, I wish ASW wouldn't make things like this an issue to begin with >,< I kinda don't mind these kind of setup when they are hard to do. They add spices to the match. Too plain fighters are boring in my eyes
TagerTime Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 amane scarves are indeed physical property and not projectiles. In fact, the only projectiles he has is the hariken (ground) drill and the super hariken drill. From what i remember Tager can sledge through all of Amanes drills not just hariken.
TD Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 I don't know my own character ;_; 6d is a projectile too iirc, not sure about the other d versions now. They're probably projectiles too, or just too weak to break through sledge. If player 2 amane can 236d through player 1 amane 5d then they are projectiles.
susano Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Damn...I knew Nu was going to be stronger but its that scary now?
zankoku Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 I don't know my own character ;_; 6d is a projectile too iirc, not sure about the other d versions now. They're probably projectiles too, or just too weak to break through sledge. If player 2 amane can 236d through player 1 amane 5d then they are projectiles. Sledge is specifically projectile guard point, so there's never a case of attacks "too weak" to break through it. You might be thinking of Tager's 6A, which is an armored attack.
someonewhodied Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Really wish execution requirement with nu would be higher. even the best of combos requires like no effort with her in 2.0.....
Dreiko Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 I think it's a result of people whining about Nu's mode shift stuff being tight. What can ya do. They made everyone somewhat easier in this it seems actually.
Myoro Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Really wish execution requirement with nu would be higher. even the best of combos requires like no effort with her in 2.0..... You'll be sure to find something interesting that normal execution cannot achieve.
Ziggy_Stardust Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Personally, I'm very excited for this update. I can finally beat the hell out of Celica, yay!
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