LunaKage Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 22C has same move proration, no CT haidas.
HexaNoid Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Maybe noel mashing is: 3C 22BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB I highly doubt that's gonna do 4.2k damage. But if it does..
Sechs Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Sorry, if this was already addressed: - but can Hakumen combo from 2D or can I look forward to a lifetime of illegitmate combos. Poor Valkenhayn got taken to the vet by Rachel to be neutered...
Aureliano Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Crossing my fingers for dat Jin overhead. Wasn't wishing for it but now that it's in, I hope they won't take it back.
psycofang2 Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Sorry, if this was already addressed: - but can Hakumen combo from 2D or can I look forward to a lifetime of illegitmate combos. Poor Valkenhayn got taken to the vet by Rachel to be neutered... no hakumen cannot combo off any of his counters except the character specific 5D.
Bolverk-GTM Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 22C has same move proration, no CT haidas. Damn it. We still have plenty of stuff to work with anyways, it's not that big of a deal. I highly doubt that's gonna do 4.2k damage. But if it does.. M. BISON NOEL GO!
FunkyP Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 You mean like a good opponent would duck and not get hit by it? If so, then that doesn't work. The delay is just small enough so that the opponent can tech after you cancel the grab, but not long enough so that they can do anything. I've done it quite a few times before to reset my combos. You mean you got the timing wrong and your op wasn't paying attention and got hit by the command grab. What Pachirisu is saying there's no reason not to down hold downback and tech after Noel has already grabbed you. If you whiff command grab you're in for a world of serious hurt. If you're gonna play seriously don't assume everyone you face is a scrub.
Eshi Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 (edited) Buffs that solidify Makoto's shaky mixup game in exchange for nerfs that screw with some of her gimmicky combos? Whodathunkit. Anyways, no aerial tech after 214A~CxN combined with better (How, exactly? Faster?) 214A~B will make 5C's options more interesting. Shame it's probably still easy to mash 5A her out of the dash...if it's fast enough to beat out mashers, though, then wow. Might be possible to do silly things like 6c 214A~B 6a, though not optimistic about that (6c 214A~C~A doesn't even come that close to connecting...). Any idea if 214A~C~A/B were changed at all?IMO makoto's mix-up is fine as it is. Her main problem is sacrificing damage for oki makes her combos do like 1.5k-2k each while sacrificing oki for damage nets 3k at best and she sucks without her pressure. These buffs are exactly what I was hoping for. I don't think 214AC(A|B) have been changed. I don't think the A ender is that bad though, and 90% of the time I'd rather end with 2D LV1 instead of the B version anyway. Edited November 18, 2010 by Eshi
zreb Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Sorry everyone, Taokaka's not old enough to drive.
Hurricane Rev Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Sorry everyone, Taokaka's not smart enough to drive. Fixed!
Blade Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 I highly doubt that's gonna do 4.2k damage. But if it does.. IIRC in some situations it's hit 3k versus some characters, has more to do with how far they are from you otg and if they're in the corner or not (and damage properties I think)
Dacidbro Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Not even fucking trolling but it's shit like this. Shit like this is why America won't be on Japan's level. He did the same thing Bang mixup any bang can do; just because it hit or he put the thought into applying it in better setups doesn't mean IT'S MYSTICAL JAPANESE VOODOO SKILL THAT SILLY AMERICANS CAN'T DO. Fuck is wrong with you man. I don't think I remember saying that his mix up was better because he was from Japan. His mix up was better because he has way more experience.
ZONG_one Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 His mixup was better because he made you want to push buttons in the corner.
Setsuna Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Maybe noel mashing is: 3C 22BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB I agree :D
Blade Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Dacid, Zidane, just freaking play the hell out of eachother online and settle it that way...I'm tired of this war-story swapping back-n-forth whiney crap. EC? WC? You freaking coasters are beach-bums, play me in CENTRAL U.S.A.! Nobody holds tournaments in Milwaukee, dammit!!
LunaKage Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Dacid, Zidane, just freaking play the hell out of eachother online and settle it that way...I'm tired of this war-story swapping back-n-forth whiney crap. EC? WC? You freaking coasters are beach-bums, play me in CENTRAL U.S.A.! Nobody holds tournaments in Milwaukee, dammit!! The connection would be terrible.
Henaki Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 The connection would be terrible. also iirc zidane has personally "beaten" dacid twice. once at cf and once at seasons beatings sooooooooooo. ps i posted this in the tager thread but its pretty on topic: imo the guardpoint on hammer is probably a good thing but what would necessitate it being a really useful change is making it so A sledge isnt punishable on IB (if it left him at -5 in almost all cases...). this would mean people wouldnt be able to mash their favorite button after an A sledge IB generally, meaning you have a POTENTIAL for mixing people up after it. meaning he has sort of risky but repeatable pressure. an interesting change but depending on how it plays out, might be totally worthless or amazing. edit: hell, making A slege +1 on block would go MIIIIIIIIIIIILES.
Blade Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 How does that work anyway? In terms of increments I mean... If something is +1 on block, how much reaction time does a person have to do something...compared to +2 or +3 or -1 etc etc.
KayEff Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Reaction time doesn't apply to frame advantage.
Henaki Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 making A sledge +1 on block would make it unpunishiable on IB. if its unpunishable on IB, you can cover the frame disvantange you would have (their button > your button) with either A driver or the followup to sledge (which will blow through that hit on auto-guard). meaning that A sledge, even if IBed, is a useful tool and on a good read you can keep your pressure (or simply choose to block). also making A sledge +1 on non IB means that if you dont IB it, tager has a blockstring worth half a damn.
Prototype909 Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 - ベリアルエッジの角度が鋭くなりコンボで融通が利きにくく - ベリアルエッジの初段が一回後ろに下がるモーションがつきさらに当てにくく First line says Belial Edge's angle got sharper, which probably means more downward of an angle. Not an effective combo option now. I have no idea what the second one says. You'll have to wait on eirei or another approved translator for that. Starting to get confused as to what they're trying to do with Rags now
ZONG_one Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Dacidbro wasn't at season's beatings. That nigga don't travel.
Henaki Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 Dacidbro wasn't at season's beatings. That nigga don't travel. he was there in spirit im sure.
KayEff Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 he was there in spirit im sure. Dacid's too poor to be anywhere in spirit.
Spirit Juice Posted November 18, 2010 Posted November 18, 2010 If Dacid or Zidane (or anyone who wants to troll in regards to their trolling) post in this thread one more time I'm fucking banning them for a week. This is not a threat, but a promise.
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